Converting Driving License

10:39 PM / Published by Andy Law /

For those who are working in Singapore and want to convert their Malaysian driving license after passed the Basic Driving Theory Test, I would not recommend you to obtain the extract from the JPJ Johor (nearest to Singapore) as the staff there will blacklist your Malaysian license once you obtain the extract. By the way, the extract contains your driving records and particulars. You need the extract in order to get driving license in Singapore.



My friends obtained the extract from JPJ Sarawak and Malacca and their Malaysian license did not get blacklisted. If you are still insisting of getting the extract from JPJ Johor, you need to pay the agents there for RM200 to RM250 in order not to get blacklisted. The agents will usually waiting outside the JPJ building and luring those Malaysians who want to convert their driving license. The agents will give you their company namecards and then settle for you.





I feel that it's something like asking for a bribe. So I refused to pay them as I condemn any sorts of bribery. At first I thought Singapore driving license can be used in Malaysia since my colleagues working there (staying in Johor Bahru) did not get caught using Singapore driving license. After a year, I went back to my hometown only to discover that Singapore driving license cannot be used in Malaysia. I guess it can only be used in Johor Bahru since a lot of people staying there working in Singapore.



I phoned to JPJ Johor Licensing Unit and asked how if I want my Malaysian driving license back. The officer told me to get the extract from Singapore Traffic Police.

Below is the original conversation in Malay.


Me : Selamat pagi. Adakah sini Jabatan Pengangkutan Jalan Johor Bahru?
Operator : Ya.
Me : Boleh sambungkan ke talian Bahagian Perlesenan Pemandu tak?
Operator : Tunggu sebentar ya.

After 15 seconds of waiting.

Officer : Ada apa yang boleh saya bantu, encik?
Me : Saya memerlukan lesen memandu Malaysia saya kerana kadang-kala saya
perlu memandu di Sarawak. Saya dapat tahu yang lesen memandu Singapura
saya tidak boleh diguna pakai di Malaysia.
Officer : Ok, saudara perlu mendapatkan abstrak dari Polis Trafik Singapura. Sama
seperti dulu bagaimana saudara dapat abstrak dari JPJ untuk mendapatkan
lesen memandu Singapura.
Me : Terima kasih, tuan.

I went to Singapore Traffic Police Headquarter at Ubi Avenue 3 near Paya Lebar MRT to get the abstract. Upon payment, the staff gave me the abstract of driving license records. She informed me that I can still keep the driving license as the license is valid for life (no blacklisted). The good thing about Singapore driving license is that we do not need to renew it. There is only one time registration fee of SG$50 and you will get a lifetime license!



After that I went to JPJ Johor Bahru holding the extract with the hope that I can have both Singapore and Malaysia driving license back since Singapore traffic police did not blacklist me. My happiness did not last long when the JPJ staff told me that my Singapore driving license will be PUNCHED if I want to apply my Malaysia driving license back. If like that, I have no more Singapore driving license. Grggghhhhh....damn angry.

Another agent approached me after few minutes.


Agent : Apa kamu mahu? Convert lesen memandu kah?
Me : Saya mahu memohon balik lesen memandu Malaysia saya tetapi diberitahu yang
lesen memandu saya akan dipotong. Saya tidak faham mengapa polis trafik
Singapura cakap boleh simpan lesen memandu Singapura saya tetapi JPJ sini cakap
perlu potong.
Agent : You mahu kekal kedua-dua lesen? Kamu perlu bayar RM350 dan kami boleh
selesaikan dengan cepat.
Me : *WTF! All money, money, money!* Walao, kenapa mahal sangat?
Agent : Sebab sekarang perlu settle dengan dua pihak, pihak yang bertanggungjawab
senarai hitam punya dan satu lagi pihak yang akan 'punch' lesen memandu
Singapura kamu.
Me : kalau macam ini...
Agent : Siapa suruh dulu kamu tak mahu bayar RM200? Dulu hanya libatkan satu pihak,
sekarang dua pihak. Jadi mesti mahal sikit lah.
Me : Ok, tak apa. Saya boleh selesaikan sendiri. Wah, macam ini cepat kaya lah kamu.


After a while he approached another guy who wanted to convert driving license. I am wondering how much can the agents earn per month. No matter what, I will not support bribery even though it involves RM50 only.

So what I can recapitulate here is that try not to get the abstract from JPJ Johor Bahru. Get it from the other states of Malaysia in order not to get blacklisted. If you still want JB, then you pay RM200/250 to the agents.

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43 comments:

Anonymous on August 1, 2009 at 10:05 AM

hi, i think you can refer to jpj web site and download the akta 333. (from "akta an kaedah")at page 45 an 46, it show s'pore license n m'sia license same.
if any police or jpj stop you in malaysia. show it to them . i think they not sure also@@ hope can help you.

Anonymous on August 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM

The biggest joke i've ever heard is, malaysia gov. believe in law and equality.

Anonymous on September 1, 2009 at 11:37 PM

hi there, im gng to malaysia to obtain my extracts. was thinking about going to JB's JPJ but after reading yuor post regarding the blacklisted issue i'll go Mellacca instead. But just curious why is it tht they will blacklist your driving licence after you obtain your extract?

Comment by JIA XIAN on September 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM

I am going to apply for the extract in Melaka soon. Hope everything is fine.

Thanks for your advice.

sino on October 20, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Me too going to get my extract soon, anyway, its really a good report here which detail and helpful, thanks pal

Comment by Kerry on February 2, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Dear Andy,
I'm planning to convert my license soon..
Now I'm a little afraid.

Since you have all the facts & evidence, why don't you make a complain at the below...Since our PM Najib's so into anti corruption.
http://portal.jpj.gov.my/help/

I'm just hoping that Malaysia will be a better place ...someday

Anonymous on March 30, 2010 at 10:21 AM

Dear Andy,

Singapore license can be used for those drving with malaysia registered car. I did call to jpj KL hot line. Dont need to bother the coffee money.

Anonymous on March 31, 2010 at 10:09 AM

Hi,

Any reference to the JPJ website that Singapore license can be used for driving malaysia registered car?

Thank you.

Anonymous on April 8, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Hi,
Is anyone know the JB JPJ address and their operating hours? Is JPJ open on Saturday? Kindly advise! Thanks alot! :)

cc

Comment by debbie on May 11, 2010 at 1:19 PM

i am from sarawak too. my brother is holding malaysian driving license. my husband bought a car. he wants to drive in singapore. so, he jsut seat for the theory test in singapore. after pass, his license is consider international driving license. he can use the license to drive in singapore and sarawak too. no need to report anywhere !
when he is using the license to drive in sarawak, once he is being asking by the trafix police. my brother told the police, that , THIS IS INTERNATIONAL DRIVING LICENSE ! WHY CN NOT !" then he win!
no need to afraid.

Anonymous on May 25, 2010 at 3:51 PM

JPJ JB do not operate on Sat anymore.
No matter where u do your extract the system will “deactivated” your license after it expiries, not 'blacklist'.
There is no such thing that whether you or who else get the traffic records, your license will still be deactivated, but not cancelled.
U can activiate back anytime when u decide to be back in Msia for good ;)
Source: http://homeofbcjennifer.blogspot.com/2008/11/myth-of-converting-malaysian-driving.html

Comment by Weiniの薇 on August 8, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Hi Andy,
I was being told by the JPJ JB officer to carry out the same procedures to "re-activate" my M'sia driving license. Would like to know what happened for your case in the end after you get the extract letter fr LTA SG, did they really "PUNCHED" your SG driving license? If that's the case, i supposed our driving license record should still remain in LTA system, just the license maybe we reposrted as lost or damaged, can it possibly be replaced at a later stage?
I am very confuse about the rules in M'sia for this matter. Some said SG PR can drive M'sia registered car with SG license in M'sia legally, some said NO. Logically should be YES, but i think in order to avoid ther troubles fr m'sia police, i shall just "re-activate" my m'sia license as i would be relocated to work in KL and drive frequently for at least one year.
Looking forward to hear from you, i'm tired to ask around as JPJ and others are giving very different comments, and i just want to know the fact fr your real case.
Thanks a lot :)

Anonymous on August 14, 2010 at 10:44 PM

So did you need managed to convert?
My license was taken and passed (both theory & practical) in Singapore and I need a M'sia License to drive in M'sia. I'm a M'sian btw

Comment by SIA license on August 28, 2010 at 8:41 PM

great advice....Thanks...its a great mechanism of security .can you tell me how much money we have to spend to get this converting licence?

Fion on September 4, 2010 at 1:24 AM

Hi,

Can I know whether i can convert my malaysia license to international license in Singapore? Since I need to go USA for training, I need to have an international license. Or I must convert it in Malaysia. For my information, it costs RM150per year, just for international license. Malaysia license can still remain as long as pay the fees each year.
So which 1 is the recommended way to get my international license? Cos I feel that RM 150 is quite expensive. Is Singapore license recognised by USA?
Hope to see any reply from u all.It is urgent. Thanks.

Anonymous on December 11, 2010 at 1:45 AM

i am a singapore PR and i think i do not have the yellow card. They chop on my passport during my renewal...can they recognised the passport stamp on my expired passport and current passport instead of insisting on the yellow card? pls help thanks

Anonymous on April 4, 2011 at 2:41 PM

I'm a foreigner driving in Malaysia with a Malaysian issued DL. I use this in the US to rent cars with no problem. I refuse to pay the RM150 to obtain an Int'l DL from Malaysia when other countries charge a fraction of such a cost for a multi-year permit. If Malaysia is such a low wage / low cost country, who is benefiting from this 150 charge? Taiwan charges RM10 for an Int'l DL

Anonymous on April 11, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Can some one give me the contact persons/mobile no. of any good agents to convert foreign driving license to Malaysian driving license. tkx
kannanglass@rediffmail.com

Anonymous on January 21, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Do not believe those leechers at JPJ! i paid RM150 to "keep" my driving license but it ended up being "disenaraihitamkan" and i cannot renew my license.
My problem now is, i am going to buy a malaysian car next month and i don't know if i can use my singapore license to buy/drive the car...

malaysia boleh...

Anonymous on April 23, 2012 at 11:48 PM

I have both. Just renewed my Malaysian license

Comment by jeff khoo on May 1, 2012 at 5:52 PM

How much u pay? Can pm me at cannavaroe@yahoo.com ? Thx

Comment by Duckling on June 30, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Hi andy,
I am very keen to know what happened for your case in the end after you get the extract letter fr LTA SG, did they really "PUNCHED" your SG driving license?

Anonymous on September 2, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Hi, I am a Sg PR and have converted my M'sia DL to Sg DL. I need to get a Class E (lorry)in Msia, but JPJ told me that I cant unless I cancel my Sg DL, which I cant, as I do drive in Sg. Only way is to keep my Sg DL and unbacklist my Msia DL. Anywhere i can do it? Please advise. can email me at choonhooi@yahoo.com

Anonymous on September 18, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Hi Anonymous,

Which JPJ did you get the letter for converting to Spore license?

Anonymous on September 26, 2012 at 6:45 PM

I'm malaysian, using SG DL in malaysia for 7 - 8 years. Also buy new car using SG DL. Kena sahman few times at highway in JB, NS Highway also show TP SG DL. So far no issue.

Anonymous on October 2, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Can anyone give me the contact number of the agents...pm me at kjchua74@gmail.com. Thanks

Anonymous on October 2, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Can anyone give me the contact number of the agents...pm me at kjchua74@gmail.com. Thanks

Anonymous on November 15, 2012 at 11:46 PM

i got mine done by the agent in JB JPJ...paid 250 and now found out being blacklisted ! damn it! now i will pay 500 to find ppl go beat up those runner!!!

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Anonymous on April 7, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Dont belive those runner stand in front of jpj say can help u settle both sg and malaysia driving license.2 yrs back before i convert license i pay RM300 for a runner. He say gaotim my license(both sg and m'sia license will alive), last week my license dead i went to post office renew my license and the officer told me my license is blacklisted! i direct call that runner we meetup at jpj. Who knows he ask for money again! RM150(5yrs) plus RM200(settle fees). i say ok fine i trust you one last time.he take my money drag until this morning say settle edi then i ask him for meetup, then when i get license, he just only help me renew 2 yrs! i lost RM200 this time again for this shxt!i ask him y only renew 2 yrs?!he pretend dono keep tok cock and still and for RM20 duit kopi!?!!that day i ask officer at counter jpj, they say once you're already blacklisted in system,no matter how u still blacklisted! don't waste money,just go for sg license. Dont become the next victim like me!!

Comment by Qi Rong Lai on May 1, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Hi bro,
How you license now. I am about to convert my m'sia lesen within this month. How is you conversion to m'sia lesen after that. In order to keep both side license what I should do, at the beginning??

Thanks in advanced!!

Comment by Harry on April 27, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Good post bro!
I was in the same case, paying Rm250 end up blacklisted. I am going to buy car in Malaysia with Singapore license. Bank request a guarantor because of Singapore license.
I will try to reactivate Malaysia license record for Singapore insurance purpose. They need my malaysia driving license experience record from JPJ when involving insurance claim. Because I declared I am having 14years exp but LTA only showed 2 years.

Anonymous on June 24, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Hi, bro
now my license is expired and I want to renew license , but the officer told me my license is blacklisted, so how can renew ? pls tell me~~

Sunny Lim on August 20, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Hi Andy & everyone,

I've my Extract of Driving License Records some days back but end-up rejected by SSDC due to no JPJ chop & signature. I went back to the JPJ Penang but they refuse to do it.
Can I just re-extract again from other JPJ?
Pls help. Thanks.

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