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For those who are working in Singapore and want to convert their Malaysian driving license after passed the Basic Driving Theory Test, I would not recommend you to obtain the extract from the JPJ Johor (nearest to Singapore) as the staff there will blacklist your Malaysian license once you obtain the extract. By the way, the extract contains your driving records and particulars. You need the extract in order to get driving license in Singapore.
My friends obtained the extract from JPJ Sarawak and Malacca and their Malaysian license did not get blacklisted. If you are still insisting of getting the extract from JPJ Johor, you need to pay the agents there for RM200 to RM250 in order not to get blacklisted. The agents will usually waiting outside the JPJ building and luring those Malaysians who want to convert their driving license. The agents will give you their company namecards and then settle for you.
I feel that it's something like asking for a bribe. So I refused to pay them as I condemn any sorts of bribery. At first I thought Singapore driving license can be used in Malaysia since my colleagues working there (staying in Johor Bahru) did not get caught using Singapore driving license. After a year, I went back to my hometown only to discover that Singapore driving license cannot be used in Malaysia. I guess it can only be used in Johor Bahru since a lot of people staying there working in Singapore.
I phoned to JPJ Johor Licensing Unit and asked how if I want my Malaysian driving license back. The officer told me to get the extract from Singapore Traffic Police.
Below is the original conversation in Malay.
Me : Selamat pagi. Adakah sini Jabatan Pengangkutan Jalan Johor Bahru?
Operator : Ya.
Me : Boleh sambungkan ke talian Bahagian Perlesenan Pemandu tak?
Operator : Tunggu sebentar ya.
After 15 seconds of waiting.
Officer : Ada apa yang boleh saya bantu, encik?
Me : Saya memerlukan lesen memandu Malaysia saya kerana kadang-kala saya
perlu memandu di Sarawak. Saya dapat tahu yang lesen memandu Singapura
saya tidak boleh diguna pakai di Malaysia.
Officer : Ok, saudara perlu mendapatkan abstrak dari Polis Trafik Singapura. Sama
seperti dulu bagaimana saudara dapat abstrak dari JPJ untuk mendapatkan
lesen memandu Singapura.
Me : Terima kasih, tuan.
I went to Singapore Traffic Police Headquarter at Ubi Avenue 3 near Paya Lebar MRT to get the abstract. Upon payment, the staff gave me the abstract of driving license records. She informed me that I can still keep the driving license as the license is valid for life (no blacklisted). The good thing about Singapore driving license is that we do not need to renew it. There is only one time registration fee of SG$50 and you will get a lifetime license!
After that I went to JPJ Johor Bahru holding the extract with the hope that I can have both Singapore and Malaysia driving license back since Singapore traffic police did not blacklist me. My happiness did not last long when the JPJ staff told me that my Singapore driving license will be PUNCHED if I want to apply my Malaysia driving license back. If like that, I have no more Singapore driving license. Grggghhhhh....damn angry.
Another agent approached me after few minutes.
Agent : Apa kamu mahu? Convert lesen memandu kah?
Me : Saya mahu memohon balik lesen memandu Malaysia saya tetapi diberitahu yang
lesen memandu saya akan dipotong. Saya tidak faham mengapa polis trafik
Singapura cakap boleh simpan lesen memandu Singapura saya tetapi JPJ sini cakap
perlu potong.
Agent : You mahu kekal kedua-dua lesen? Kamu perlu bayar RM350 dan kami boleh
selesaikan dengan cepat.
Me : *WTF! All money, money, money!* Walao, kenapa mahal sangat?
Agent : Sebab sekarang perlu settle dengan dua pihak, pihak yang bertanggungjawab
senarai hitam punya dan satu lagi pihak yang akan 'punch' lesen memandu
Singapura kamu.
Me : kalau macam ini...
Agent : Siapa suruh dulu kamu tak mahu bayar RM200? Dulu hanya libatkan satu pihak,
sekarang dua pihak. Jadi mesti mahal sikit lah.
Me : Ok, tak apa. Saya boleh selesaikan sendiri. Wah, macam ini cepat kaya lah kamu.
After a while he approached another guy who wanted to convert driving license. I am wondering how much can the agents earn per month. No matter what, I will not support bribery even though it involves RM50 only.
So what I can recapitulate here is that try not to get the abstract from JPJ Johor Bahru. Get it from the other states of Malaysia in order not to get blacklisted. If you still want JB, then you pay RM200/250 to the agents.
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hi, i think you can refer to jpj web site and download the akta 333. (from "akta an kaedah")at page 45 an 46, it show s'pore license n m'sia license same.
if any police or jpj stop you in malaysia. show it to them . i think they not sure also@@ hope can help you.
The biggest joke i've ever heard is, malaysia gov. believe in law and equality.
hi there, im gng to malaysia to obtain my extracts. was thinking about going to JB's JPJ but after reading yuor post regarding the blacklisted issue i'll go Mellacca instead. But just curious why is it tht they will blacklist your driving licence after you obtain your extract?
I am going to apply for the extract in Melaka soon. Hope everything is fine.
Thanks for your advice.
Me too going to get my extract soon, anyway, its really a good report here which detail and helpful, thanks pal
Dear Andy,
I'm planning to convert my license soon..
Now I'm a little afraid.
Since you have all the facts & evidence, why don't you make a complain at the below...Since our PM Najib's so into anti corruption.
http://portal.jpj.gov.my/help/
I'm just hoping that Malaysia will be a better place ...someday
Dear Andy,
Singapore license can be used for those drving with malaysia registered car. I did call to jpj KL hot line. Dont need to bother the coffee money.
Hi,
Any reference to the JPJ website that Singapore license can be used for driving malaysia registered car?
Thank you.
Hi,
Is anyone know the JB JPJ address and their operating hours? Is JPJ open on Saturday? Kindly advise! Thanks alot! :)
cc
i am from sarawak too. my brother is holding malaysian driving license. my husband bought a car. he wants to drive in singapore. so, he jsut seat for the theory test in singapore. after pass, his license is consider international driving license. he can use the license to drive in singapore and sarawak too. no need to report anywhere !
when he is using the license to drive in sarawak, once he is being asking by the trafix police. my brother told the police, that , THIS IS INTERNATIONAL DRIVING LICENSE ! WHY CN NOT !" then he win!
no need to afraid.
JPJ JB do not operate on Sat anymore.
No matter where u do your extract the system will “deactivated” your license after it expiries, not 'blacklist'.
There is no such thing that whether you or who else get the traffic records, your license will still be deactivated, but not cancelled.
U can activiate back anytime when u decide to be back in Msia for good ;)
Source: http://homeofbcjennifer.blogspot.com/2008/11/myth-of-converting-malaysian-driving.html
Hi Andy,
I was being told by the JPJ JB officer to carry out the same procedures to "re-activate" my M'sia driving license. Would like to know what happened for your case in the end after you get the extract letter fr LTA SG, did they really "PUNCHED" your SG driving license? If that's the case, i supposed our driving license record should still remain in LTA system, just the license maybe we reposrted as lost or damaged, can it possibly be replaced at a later stage?
I am very confuse about the rules in M'sia for this matter. Some said SG PR can drive M'sia registered car with SG license in M'sia legally, some said NO. Logically should be YES, but i think in order to avoid ther troubles fr m'sia police, i shall just "re-activate" my m'sia license as i would be relocated to work in KL and drive frequently for at least one year.
Looking forward to hear from you, i'm tired to ask around as JPJ and others are giving very different comments, and i just want to know the fact fr your real case.
Thanks a lot :)
So did you need managed to convert?
My license was taken and passed (both theory & practical) in Singapore and I need a M'sia License to drive in M'sia. I'm a M'sian btw
great advice....Thanks...its a great mechanism of security .can you tell me how much money we have to spend to get this converting licence?
Hi,
Can I know whether i can convert my malaysia license to international license in Singapore? Since I need to go USA for training, I need to have an international license. Or I must convert it in Malaysia. For my information, it costs RM150per year, just for international license. Malaysia license can still remain as long as pay the fees each year.
So which 1 is the recommended way to get my international license? Cos I feel that RM 150 is quite expensive. Is Singapore license recognised by USA?
Hope to see any reply from u all.It is urgent. Thanks.
i am a singapore PR and i think i do not have the yellow card. They chop on my passport during my renewal...can they recognised the passport stamp on my expired passport and current passport instead of insisting on the yellow card? pls help thanks
I'm a foreigner driving in Malaysia with a Malaysian issued DL. I use this in the US to rent cars with no problem. I refuse to pay the RM150 to obtain an Int'l DL from Malaysia when other countries charge a fraction of such a cost for a multi-year permit. If Malaysia is such a low wage / low cost country, who is benefiting from this 150 charge? Taiwan charges RM10 for an Int'l DL
Can some one give me the contact persons/mobile no. of any good agents to convert foreign driving license to Malaysian driving license. tkx
kannanglass@rediffmail.com
Do not believe those leechers at JPJ! i paid RM150 to "keep" my driving license but it ended up being "disenaraihitamkan" and i cannot renew my license.
My problem now is, i am going to buy a malaysian car next month and i don't know if i can use my singapore license to buy/drive the car...
malaysia boleh...
I have both. Just renewed my Malaysian license
How much u pay? Can pm me at cannavaroe@yahoo.com ? Thx
Hi andy,
I am very keen to know what happened for your case in the end after you get the extract letter fr LTA SG, did they really "PUNCHED" your SG driving license?
Hi, I am a Sg PR and have converted my M'sia DL to Sg DL. I need to get a Class E (lorry)in Msia, but JPJ told me that I cant unless I cancel my Sg DL, which I cant, as I do drive in Sg. Only way is to keep my Sg DL and unbacklist my Msia DL. Anywhere i can do it? Please advise. can email me at choonhooi@yahoo.com
Hi Anonymous,
Which JPJ did you get the letter for converting to Spore license?
I'm malaysian, using SG DL in malaysia for 7 - 8 years. Also buy new car using SG DL. Kena sahman few times at highway in JB, NS Highway also show TP SG DL. So far no issue.
Can anyone give me the contact number of the agents...pm me at kjchua74@gmail.com. Thanks
Can anyone give me the contact number of the agents...pm me at kjchua74@gmail.com. Thanks
i got mine done by the agent in JB JPJ...paid 250 and now found out being blacklisted ! damn it! now i will pay 500 to find ppl go beat up those runner!!!
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Dont belive those runner stand in front of jpj say can help u settle both sg and malaysia driving license.2 yrs back before i convert license i pay RM300 for a runner. He say gaotim my license(both sg and m'sia license will alive), last week my license dead i went to post office renew my license and the officer told me my license is blacklisted! i direct call that runner we meetup at jpj. Who knows he ask for money again! RM150(5yrs) plus RM200(settle fees). i say ok fine i trust you one last time.he take my money drag until this morning say settle edi then i ask him for meetup, then when i get license, he just only help me renew 2 yrs! i lost RM200 this time again for this shxt!i ask him y only renew 2 yrs?!he pretend dono keep tok cock and still and for RM20 duit kopi!?!!that day i ask officer at counter jpj, they say once you're already blacklisted in system,no matter how u still blacklisted! don't waste money,just go for sg license. Dont become the next victim like me!!
Hi bro,
How you license now. I am about to convert my m'sia lesen within this month. How is you conversion to m'sia lesen after that. In order to keep both side license what I should do, at the beginning??
Thanks in advanced!!
Good post bro!
I was in the same case, paying Rm250 end up blacklisted. I am going to buy car in Malaysia with Singapore license. Bank request a guarantor because of Singapore license.
I will try to reactivate Malaysia license record for Singapore insurance purpose. They need my malaysia driving license experience record from JPJ when involving insurance claim. Because I declared I am having 14years exp but LTA only showed 2 years.
Hi, bro
now my license is expired and I want to renew license , but the officer told me my license is blacklisted, so how can renew ? pls tell me~~
Hi Andy & everyone,
I've my Extract of Driving License Records some days back but end-up rejected by SSDC due to no JPJ chop & signature. I went back to the JPJ Penang but they refuse to do it.
Can I just re-extract again from other JPJ?
Pls help. Thanks.
Hi, your driving record extract got how many page? The JPJ officer only give me 1 page.. Is it correct?
can i ask , i am oversea very long time and want to return to malaysia. can i renew my license ? my license already expired quite long time maybe about 5 years or more. if so can anyone pm me the contact agent that can help me to renew my license? braggdavis77@outloo.com
I did ask, not Penang don't want to do for you but it all started by JPJ Johor that put the chop and sign. And most people did it there, so SG only recognized that as authentic. You just need to go Johor one for chop.
may seems to be a hard questions but as far as I know, you need to retake the whole thing from theory and practical again. Just like making a fresh application after you miss your renewable date a year after.
last 2 week Sunday went to JB JPJ , at the counter asked for extract record due for convert license he gave me a white form & number. While read through the form there is a statement there said will blacklisted your Malaysia Driving License & below there is a colum for signature that require us to admit it. Once you get the white form the agent saw the form will come and approach you.Said can help you settle bla bla bla. If you sign the form then will blacklisted. Due to that form with blacklisted condition so i have returned the form back to him. And decided back to my home town to extract the driving record. Hopefully my home town is not like JB JPJ .
hi can anyone pls tell me when we go to JPJ ask for Extract of Driving License form , JPJ will chop and sign and settle it on that day ? or it takes few days to process ?
Pls be noted that JPJ UTC JB does not provide extraction of driving record
I've made a wasteful trip
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So if to drive Malaysia registered car, or buy car in Malaysia using SG driving license, is there an issue?
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I will recommend you to contact a loan officer Mr Pedro on the information below if you need any financial assistance.
Email & Chat: +1 863 231 0632 pedroloanss@gmail.com
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